Amanda Casari: My name is Amanda Casari, my pronouns are she/her. Today is November 18. And I’m speaking with Elana Hashman, who I originally met, I think PyCon, maybe in like 2019, because we started nerding out together over open source and its complexities. We are recording this conversation for Open Source Stories. I am in an office in New England, which is lit much better now than it was a few weeks ago.